The Voice reports that well know British historian and broadcaster David Starkey has been blasted for his comments on BBC TV where he blamed ‘black culture’ for turning white youngsters into looters.
In a discussion on BBC2's Newsnight show, Starkey said he had been re-reading racist MP Enough Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech.
Starkey claimed: "His prophesy was absolutely right in one sense. The Tiber did not foam with blood but flames lambent, they wrapped around Tottenham and wrapped around Clapham," he said.
“The whites have become black. A particular sort of violent, destructive, nihilistic, gangster culture has become the fashion. And black and white, boy and girl, operate in this language together, this language which is wholly false, which is this Jamaican patois that’s been intruded in England, and this is why so many of us have this sense of literally a foreign country.” He added.
To further outrage, the historian went on to say: “Listen to David Lammy (MP), an archetypical successful black man,” he said. “If you turned the screen off so you were listening to him on radio you’d think he was white.”
The association being that those who speak like a ‘white person’ are civilised and those who speak with “Jamaican patois’ are criminals.
Writer and education adviser Dreda Say Mitchell, a fellow guest on the show, was clearly annoyed with Starkey’s comments.
She said to Starkey: “You said David Lammy when you heard him sounded white and what you meant by that is that white people equals respectable.”
She added: "You keep talking about black culture. Black communities are not homogenous. So there are black cultures. Lots of different black cultures. What we need to be doing is ... thinking about ourselves not as individual communities ... as one community. We need to stop talking about them and us."
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The historian is a buffoon. Culture and poverty don't make people riot. Bad parents do. Broken homes do.
ReplyDeleteDefending the rioters is insane. It seems like the black woman was defending the rioters just because they were black and didn't really want to discuss the issue as she mainly talked about the buffoon historian's bad word choice.
I don't remember any black Americans supporting the looters in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. Their houses were being looted too. Why defend the criminals?
The UK should start sending the looters back to what country they came from and if they are white, send them to jail. When you go to another country that isn't yours, you contribute, not riot.
Truth2011 you are right about the historian. But the sending back option is no option. Most of them are born and raised black British kids. I know some might disagree that there is such a thing as "black British".
ReplyDeleteBut I have heard this sending back option before. When black people on the French Caribbean Islands were violently protesting against the economic influence of the white ruling class on the islands (the former plantation owners), one of them said the blacks should return back to Africa. He even proposed to pay for a passage to Senegal.
They said that with blacks too. This is why America has in the constitution that if you were born in America, you're American no questions asked. This was before Mexicans came over just to have kids that would be called Americans.
ReplyDeleteWhites on those Caribbean Islands have no room to say who can and can't go. They're not the natives. Furthermore, they brought slaves over (a crime in itself) and then they wanted to evict them off land that isn't theirs?
The UK is white British, Scottish and Welsh's home country. The situation is different.
Truth2011, British law says the same about blacks who are born in Britain. You're position has nothing to do with the constitution.
ReplyDeleteI am from The Netherlands, where the royal family is 90% German (ancestry). And where the next queen is from Argentina. But nobody in The Netherlands questions the fact that the real "home country" of the royal family is not The Netherlands.
The should question their royal family's links to the country (or lack thereof). But then again, I bet the royal family isn't burning down 140 year old stores or mugging people in London like the looters.
ReplyDeleteI'm not excusing the rioters' behaviour...all I got to say is that in the UK we have watched the bankers loot our economy and leave it an economic wasteland...the govt is inflicting heavy cuts everywhere to pay the bill...absolutely nobody has been held to account..now we see the despicable phone hacking scandal...more than likely nobody will be held to account...it seems if you are rich and powerful, you can get away with anything...
ReplyDeleteThe young look up to the rich and powerful...they see that crime can be 'victimless' and so they imitate...rightly or wrongly...see what I might?
Sorry...my last sentence...I meant..see what I mean?
ReplyDeleteI read Truth 2011 comments and to be honest I don't think you know what you are talking about, send the people back, back to where? the people looting are black british, asians british which means they are born in the UK, still they are treated like 2nd class citzens if you don't live in England I'm sorry but you don't have a clue what is going on. David Starkey is an idoit.
ReplyDeleteThe looting by white people was done by poor and working class people, who have no place to vent they are just given rubbish and told to deal with it, no one hears their voice, the problem is in the UK you have alot of people who are frustrated black and white, white people are frustrated because they believe they are losing their country, also because they have to pay millions in taxes to pay off the banks, their sons are going to war and getting killed and when their bodies come back they are being abused by the many muslim asians who live in the country. In the Midlands there is a high number of young white girls being raped by asians and the UK is letting terroists, murders and pedos from other countries into the UK and guess who they are moving next to working class white and black people.
Black people are pissed off being they are born in the UK yet still get told to go home to their parents country, are treated like 2nd class citzens, are treated like criminals, can't get a job unless they change their name to an English one and then get subtle jokes thrown at them all day and to top that off are constantly stopped by police.
I have seen this bubbling for a long while, this isn't a race thing this is a class thing, now the majority of people who watch newsnight are middle class people who aren't effected by this and have no clue what is really going on in the streets, if you got people rioting like that you have to really look at why this happened and where it come from people don't just riot for no reason there is always an undercurrent, something which I know will never be fully addressed
Colonization is bad only if white people do it.
ReplyDelete@truth2011 -You know as I read your response it leads me to believe that you think you have all the answers. More so that you may think you’re perfect. People loot for various reasons and it has nothing to do with parenting. I know many people who do dumb things and come from so called great homes. And that it contingent on your perception of what a great home is. If your perception is determined by what the media and the world has taught you. Well!! People do many things out of hurt and despair. Am I making excuses for what was done…not at all! But I’m just going to comment on your arrogance in many of your post. As I have read many of what you have wrote I’m now more so than ever convinced that you have major issues. You have this superiority thing about Blacks and a admiration for whites. It sounds to me the white man can tell you the sky is red and you will believe it. Because it seems to me that you have a persona of one of them. You remind me of one of my cousins… He thinks because he owns a business and is doing very well for himself…that he is better than other Blacks because of his economic standing. But to me he is a fool! Basically because he has fallen for the whole “you be like me think like me and you will me” syndrome! You can pattern your thinking and yourself after the white man but you will never be. And really I’m just making a statement about how you come off. And what I think may not be true. And I’m sure it matters none to you…but relax!!!!!!! Stop thinking you know everything when it is obvious that you really know little. It’s as though you’re detached from what is really going on. You think if you assimilate you will be a part of this society here in the USA. Por Favor!! No matter what you do or how well you do it….you still will never be accepted. Hmmm I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot! And you had no education…no money….no nothing…how would you act. Would you be so quick to judge everyone else… I think you would be a bit more humble. Have some humility and for once and look at things with a wider perspective. Because I’m sure that you’re missing a lot…. Oh but I do love reading what you have to say. Most of what you say I just shake
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