tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post5418907156253232853..comments2024-03-14T23:43:31.195+01:00Comments on AFRO-EUROPE: “Case Depart” French Star Thomas Ngijol Says… “African Americans Have No Fight Anymore”Afro-Europehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09824302981015575893noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-12207989028579417262012-04-16T20:01:24.343+02:002012-04-16T20:01:24.343+02:00GIA: we're [Black Americans] are only kidding ...GIA: we're [Black Americans] are only kidding ourselves if we think that Lil' Wayne and other comedians that use the N word represent black Americans. They DON'T!truth2011https://www.blogger.com/profile/01742393873605338858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-75800557896577433102012-04-16T16:05:14.494+02:002012-04-16T16:05:14.494+02:00For me, I don't really feel it's something...For me, I don't really feel it's something to get hugely offended over. That's just his opinion and it is just very indicative that this man has no real idea about American life in general, other than what he's fed on TV. <br />AT THE SAME TIME, some of his critique has a certain validity to it. We do have a bit of an identity crisis and as much as Black Americans will resist even stepping outside the box to think about this for a moment; The fact are that we have well accomplished black people in the entertainment world calling themselves the N-word in 2012. No matter what the argument is, it's still not a representation of self-dignity. Then we as Black Americans are doing this childish and OUTLANDISH type of scolding of racist white people in the US for the racist poison they're spewing. While the racism is wrong, we still make ourselves look like idiots b/c but it's like Black American's are playing the role of the "alcoholic parent" telling it's kid: Don't you dare pick up a drink. We're calling ourselves the N-word: example: from the song N*iggas in Paris by JayZ and Kanye to Jesse Jackson, a man who walked beside Martin Luther King Jr; and has been at the fore-front of all civil rights movements - then turns around an calls President Obama the N-word?? Jesse Jackson USES the freaking N-WORD. What is that saying for a man who's seen MLK assassinated with his own eyes?? and a man who grew up experiencing Jim Crow? AND NO he is not every black person in this country but he's been LEADING us in a lot of ways. <br /><br />Seriously Black people - aren't we a little disappointed in ourselves b/c we're bullshitting ourselves in 2012 a bit? Doesn't this man, Ngijol have a small point (though not 100% correct b/c he knows nothing of the complexities and intricacies of American life with relation to race.) But the outsider that he is he see a fair amount of Black ppl becoming successful. He's probably looking at LiL Wayne as a success story, as someone black who didn't have to go to college and be educated in order to become hugely successful and then you have Obama who's also highly educated, black and became president of the United States and the leader of the free world as they say. So you can kind of see why an outsider (if you will) would come to a conclusion like he did. He may not be fully right but he has a ring of validity here. And yes, there is a certain level of disdain you hear from this man Ngijol; but I would also take the liberty to suspect that since his heritage is from Africa, he damn for sure isn't going to hold the story of Black Americans story of "oh poor us" when we are in videos partying and throwing money at the camera while large amounts of black people in Africa are riddled with communities with a high AIDS populations, Malaria, Lack of clean water, poverty like one's never seen, lack of proper schools and books... So where do we snap out of it black America?? Stop playing at getting "OFFENDED" all the time. This man's actually doing us a favor as someone outside of our situation and waking us up to knowing we have more power over our lives than we realize. We have power... In loving toughness - twitter: @ohworldgirlGIAhttp://www.twitter.com/ohworldgirlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-4543375336601162992012-04-01T06:49:57.611+02:002012-04-01T06:49:57.611+02:00Thank you very much for your comment TBayou. I sha...Thank you very much for your comment TBayou. I share your views.<br />I think Thomas Ngijol's comments are extremely offensive. I get sick to the stomach when I hear about Blacks who go out there bashing other Blacks. He seems to only rely on what he gets from the Western Media which is not very friendly when it comes to the Black community. He should not make Lil Wayne a representative of Black Americans. They have a lot to deal with....from racial profiling, prejudiced justice system, etc. <br />It makes me sick to read his shallow generalizationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-25354109668846415532012-03-08T01:01:19.513+01:002012-03-08T01:01:19.513+01:00He just might. He doesn't like immigrants and ...He just might. He doesn't like immigrants and apparently a lot of the French don't either. I hear that they dislike Muslims. And the former president of France said that Africans "stink." Sarkozy called Africans and Arabs "scum," so I think that this racist sentiment is mainstream.truth2011https://www.blogger.com/profile/01742393873605338858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-28909424723062374372012-03-07T19:31:05.620+01:002012-03-07T19:31:05.620+01:00Truth, I wonder if Sarkozy will send his Hungarian...Truth, I wonder if Sarkozy will send his Hungarian family back to Hungary.Afro-Europehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09824302981015575893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-15315191466452401272012-03-07T02:14:13.866+01:002012-03-07T02:14:13.866+01:00I wonder if Sarkozy is going to send this clown ba...I wonder if Sarkozy is going to send this clown back to Africa?<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17280647truth2011https://www.blogger.com/profile/01742393873605338858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-21842864209775016822012-02-06T04:23:37.586+01:002012-02-06T04:23:37.586+01:00This is how Africans are treated in France. http:/...This is how Africans are treated in France. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096097/Le-scam-Sarkozy-accused-bussing-fake-black-workers-publicity-visit-building-site.html <br /><br />They're treated like children; they're supposed to be seen and not heard from. And, yet this clown, wants to make a comment about black Americans? Go ask any black American under 35 what they think of him. You'll hear a lot of "racist" words.truth2011https://www.blogger.com/profile/01742393873605338858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-2429859220650504152011-10-31T05:04:33.738+01:002011-10-31T05:04:33.738+01:00This clown can feel comfortable in France all he w...This clown can feel comfortable in France all he wants. He ain't French. And the French will tell him that (if they haven't already). <br /><br />The French president called Africans "scum." The French president before the current president, Jacque Chirac, said Africans "smell." That's a country with no respect for Africans. Chirac is wildly popular despite a corruption case against him now. And Nicolas Sarkozy was elected president AFTER calling Africans "scum."<br /><br />As bad was George Bush was, can you ever imagine him saying that any group of people smell or is scum? I can't. There's just no respect for Africans there. If you've been to France, you'll see this.<br /><br />And do you know what the worst part is? Sarkozy kisses Obama's butt. Sarkozy's son idolizes black Americans; he's an aspiring rapper and producer. This clown, "Thomas", should worry about getting Africans respected in French society instead of this clown worrying about us, black Americans. He's not even one of us and he's making movies about us... racist movies.truth2011https://www.blogger.com/profile/01742393873605338858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-12714952771884663552011-10-28T16:04:00.473+02:002011-10-28T16:04:00.473+02:00Listen bro why do you got to bash this guy I mean ...Listen bro why do you got to bash this guy I mean of course his movie is pretty lame and so forth. You are telling this man that he can't be French because he doesn't happen to look like the majority of the population "white". I mean if he doesn't feel at home in whatever country he is from, but he feels home is in France then so be it. By no means do I take his side but I do find an issue with where you think his home might be versus where he feels at home period. Although, I do agree on the first part and the "poking fun at Americans"<br /><br /><br />"Rebels live forever"Rebel Americanhttp://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=8995055564850220143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-11775233981500442212011-10-28T02:01:00.659+02:002011-10-28T02:01:00.659+02:00I did comment on your posts; I commented on your p...I did comment on your posts; I commented on your personal attacks. You and I are Americans. Our ancestors -- black slaves, whites (mostly Irish) and Native Americans -- built this country.<br /><br />I bet you this clown escaped to France as a refugee or his parents were refugees. It's a little too soon for him to be calling himself French and definitely too soon to be poking fun at black Americans to a white/French audience.<br /><br />This Thomas fool is a disgrace of a person. If he really cares about his homeland like he says he does in the interview, he should be back to where he came from instead of making racist movies.truth2011https://www.blogger.com/profile/01742393873605338858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-68225705592224474812011-10-27T18:41:04.403+02:002011-10-27T18:41:04.403+02:00Rebel, I hope you will get the change to go to col...Rebel, I hope you will get the change to go to college some day.Afro-Europehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09824302981015575893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-38694425142918780832011-10-27T15:45:04.167+02:002011-10-27T15:45:04.167+02:00Truth2011...Noted..
I noticed you didn't co...Truth2011...Noted..<br /><br /><br /><br />I noticed you didn't comment on my response to you....No worries..<br /><br /><br /><br />(I passed high school english, but I didn't get accepted into college yet I'm still fighting a war)<br /><br /><br /><br />Thanks for the tipsRebel Americanhttp://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=8995055564850220143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-92220372080995828662011-10-27T05:27:37.740+02:002011-10-27T05:27:37.740+02:00Rebel American: You spelled "site" wrong...Rebel American: You spelled "site" wrong, misused "you're" by typing in "your," and lastly, put commas in your writing. Commas were invented to separate ideas and to make your (that's how you use "your") reading more... readable.<br /><br />So, please, don't comment on someone's intelligence until after you passed high school English.truth2011https://www.blogger.com/profile/01742393873605338858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-17673749018469081212011-10-26T20:06:26.678+02:002011-10-26T20:06:26.678+02:00Hi Rebel, thanks for your comments!Hi Rebel, thanks for your comments!Afro-Europehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09824302981015575893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-46853915443201761812011-10-26T17:34:33.567+02:002011-10-26T17:34:33.567+02:00Now for Thomas I agree with Ashe it's people l...Now for Thomas I agree with Ashe it's people like him (Media) that pushes and emphasizes the stereotypes that we are trying to fight....I'm like seriously bro you have the resources to make a movie and you put this out in the world...Well "f@*^k me running", so now when somebody sees me after they see your movie I wonder what they are thinking...Let me tell you something "not anything good"...<br /><br /><br /><br />Way to go Thomas your bullshit movie and your comments lets say pushed us back ummm a couple of years back...Rebel Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06470291183968628744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-88074486643886962932011-10-26T17:30:00.456+02:002011-10-26T17:30:00.456+02:00I spelled "site" wrong----BummerI spelled "site" wrong----BummerRebel Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06470291183968628744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-64328643431360144442011-10-26T17:28:38.057+02:002011-10-26T17:28:38.057+02:00I really don't know who to tear into first,
...I really don't know who to tear into first,<br /><br /><br /><br />You know what "truth2011" how dare you come on this sight and run your goddamn mouth, have you no honor, pride or respect...Those comments about his facial features and his skin color, your really crossing the line buddy!! Seriously if Thomas feels like his country is France then goddamit his country is France who are you to tell him otherwise...You telling me that I'm not American I will laugh in your face..You are ignorant, and your really bordering stupidity...I can understand some of the problems going on in Europe can it change your right it can how will it? With people unlike you watching what they say and making sure that everything at least borders intelligent, you really got me freaking pissed off just reading your spew of garbage...<br /><br /><br /><br />And this is directed to all..I'm freaking sick and tired of ppl using this sight to complain about their situations, we know the situations how about you grow a pair and change your situation,thats what I'm doing slowly but surely when ppl come in contact with me they will know that "RebelAmerican" is different what they see on T.V. and they should freaking respect him...<br /><br /><br /><br />Negroamor4u..Great to chat again.. <br /><br /><br /><br />Afro-Europe-- Hope to chat more<br /><br /><br /><br />Truth2011--Go kick rocks<br /><br /><br /><br />To all if anybody wants to e-mail me--Here is my Military e-mail- Shakiem.Smith@afg.usmc.mil- I have nothing but time:Afghanistan..<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />"Live Fast, Die Young"- Rebel American (I bleed Red, White and Blue)Rebel Americanhttp://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=8995055564850220143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-71044637834235944692011-10-24T04:05:53.389+02:002011-10-24T04:05:53.389+02:00He's a pure clown. Like I said earlier, at lea...He's a pure clown. Like I said earlier, at least us, black Americans, are in our own country.<br /><br />Anybody who has ever been to France can attest to how lowly the French think of Africans. And yet, this wants to talk about black Americans?<br /><br />He's not even one of us and he's making a COMEDY about SLAVERY? <br /><br />I hope some waiter spits in his coffee (it might have already happened knowing how racist the French are).truth2011https://www.blogger.com/profile/01742393873605338858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-15521557988854517712011-10-23T17:11:44.088+02:002011-10-23T17:11:44.088+02:00Well, I had a lot to say, but most of the black Am...Well, I had a lot to say, but most of the black Americans on here did a great job of summarizing my sentiments. This is some of the most ignorant BS I've read in a while. It's depressing how someone who knows so little about a group of people is allowed to write and star in a comedy about us. That should give you a good idea of how accurate the media is at portraying us. It's not easy being forced to fight all these negative stereotypes...especially when its coming from fellow black people. That alone is something worth fighting for.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01465692836380876903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-80124460738441107372011-09-27T16:20:59.087+02:002011-09-27T16:20:59.087+02:00Rachel Finn - I LOVE your post and as an African A...Rachel Finn - I LOVE your post and as an African American woman, I couldn't agree with you more.CL Wattshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13567550121942874714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-3874874391343657862011-09-24T11:04:16.659+02:002011-09-24T11:04:16.659+02:00Rachel thanks for compliment. I've also read y...Rachel thanks for compliment. I've also read your previous comment and I agree that most people have no idea about what life is really like in the U.S. Untill you hear what has happened to Troy Davis just recently. <br /><br />Liked your site Roots Cuisine!Afro-Europehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09824302981015575893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-75457981742932591422011-09-24T00:52:51.425+02:002011-09-24T00:52:51.425+02:00Afro-Europe, thank you. In my work I put lots of t...Afro-Europe, thank you. In my work I put lots of thought into this stuff. So I'm glad that came through. I do apologize for the length of the comment, though, probably could have said things a bit more succinctly.<br /><br />I have to say that I always find this multi-faceted issue interesting. I also want to say that I believe that there should be a united front (inasmuch as possible) among afrodescendents in the Diaspora and I fear that my comment didn't read as such. <br /><br />I believe that there is much folks don't/know or realize about Black Americans but there is certainly much Black Americans don't know about people in the broader African Diaspora. I am working to change that myself and I love that this site, brings to light issues that none of us might encounter without a whole lot of digging. <br /><br />So thank you again, Afro-Europe for providing a much needed forum for us all!Rachel Finn (http://rachelfinn.net)http://rootscuisine.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-59479881547987495262011-09-23T15:23:30.833+02:002011-09-23T15:23:30.833+02:00Gen321 Yes you are right we can learn a lot from ...Gen321 Yes you are right we can learn a lot from our brothers and sisters in Europe. That is what I have been doing for the last 10 years. I traveled many places in Europe and have made some really close friends. Friends that live in Sweden,France,Germany,London,Amsterdam,Italy just to name a few. And believe it or not a lot of my experiences I have had…they had as well. But as I stated in an earlier post…racism in Europe is more insidious. It’s hidden it sometimes take some longer to realize what is going on. Yes there are some ignorant comments made here… Some are misinformed as well. But in order FOR you to be informed it will take more than just talking to people. You have to visit and see it for yourself. Not just one time but many times to really get the feeling of it all. Then you can be informed! <br /><br />Amazingly enough people still like to blame how they were raised on their ignorance. And that’s fine to a point… But there comes a time when you should be able to make up your own mind. You should at some point develop as sense of self. You should desire to want to know more than what you were taught. I grew up watching reruns of Good Times…did I think everyone Black lived in the Projects…no! I don’t understand why we continue to make excuses for not being able to think for ourselves. What you see on the TV is not the reality of Black people. And I just find it so hard to believe that is everyone defense. You mean to tell me that most people minds are so small that they can’t think…. I think not!! People like being lead by what the media shows them. Because it is easier to be lead than to LEAD. When it comes to how you should dress…talk..walk…wear your hair… the list can go on. I have close friends in every place that I mentioned. I have been to see them and they have been here and stayed with me for weeks. That is when you really learn how someone really feels. When you sit down talk to them look at them …look in their eyes. <br /><br />And surprisingly enough we really aren’t that different at all. We like some of the same things and want the same things as well. As for equality there will never be equality! There hasn’t been equality ever…and there will never be. Since the beginning of time this is how it has been…and it has not changed yet. And there is a purpose for that as well… We have a Beautiful BLACK PERSIDENT AND FIRST LADY. Did we really think things were going to change for Black people…HELL NO! And even the president knew things would be even harder because he is a Black man. And no one really thought he would win…and when he did…well let’s just say hatred reared its ugly head. He has been opposed at every corner. <br /><br />We can’t blame Lil Wayne or anyone else for what our kids believe. To me that is where parenting comes in. You talk your kids and teach them. And for anyone to believe what they see lil wayne doing…well let’s just say sad. When will we Black People stop letting the media dictate how we should act and what we should believe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok when I was in London last year I was at 2 of the popular radio stations. I have friends that are presenters on those stations.. I was shown how the so called elite do it and I was shown how the everyday people do it. It was a great gulf in what I was shown…But it was so wonderful to see my so called rich Black friends be so interested in pulling other Black men and women up. They were aware of what it takes and how to do it. And you know what the only difference in us was the way we spoke… so to speak. I’m not interested in how other feel about Black people because you can never change anyone. If there is a change to be made…they will have to want it. I’m into stoking people to make them feel good about Black people!!! But I must say you had some really good points and I enjoyed what you had to say.negroamor4uhttp://negroamor4u-beingblackinamerica.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-49530913259477019742011-09-22T20:14:28.656+02:002011-09-22T20:14:28.656+02:00You're right Gen we must combat those negative...You're right Gen we must combat those negative stereotypes globally!<br /><br />And yes, I read about the very sad story of Troy Davis. To be honest, I am still surprised that these still things happen in the US, sometimes America looks like Alabama in the sixties. But on the other hand you are a part of a country that moves forward faster then most other countries.Afro-Europehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09824302981015575893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7595398753131290281.post-53302805799622436342011-09-22T14:27:48.471+02:002011-09-22T14:27:48.471+02:00While many of the comments I have read in response...While many of the comments I have read in response to this post, sound misinformed, ignorant, and absolutely foolish, I am glad I took the time to read the post and the comments. There is so much we (African-Americans) can learn from our Afro-European siblings and vice versa. Unfortunately, as an African-American we have to have a desire and make an effort to learn of what is going on with our fellow people of African descent in other parts of the world. Afro-European are bombarded with media about the lifestyle and culture of African-Americans, although it is often stereotyped and not a complete picture.<br /><br />This post has prompted me to seek out more information on the issues and concerns of my black brethren in other nations. I want to get an honest and accurate picture of what it is like to be black in England, France, the Netherlands, etc. As to my concerns in the U.S., I believe they are similar to many blacks in the U.S. While we have elected a black president, the fight for equality, justice, fairness is not! Last night, they executed a black man (Troy Davis) in the state of Georgia based on flimsy to non-existent evidence and the lies (the witnesses have admitted to lying)of witnesses'. Don't let the Lil' Wayne videos fool you; most blacks are not living that lifestyle. Many blacks don't want to live that lifestyle, but this is what the white controlled media wants everyone to believe; that blacks are only concerned with money, sex, and alcohol. They are brainwashing our youth, because at the end of the day, blacks are statistically and disproportianitly the biggest consumers and spenders of disposable income.<br /><br />There is so much psychology behind how we think and act in our prospective countries based on slavery and colonialism. The negative images and stereotypes of all black people (because before you open your mouth all people know about you is your race)across the globe, must be combatted by us! We must work, globally, to kill the predominant negative images of our people through effective and responsible use of media, educating our black youth and modeling self-love and by simply living our lives knowing that everything we do (for the good or the bad)is informing peoples ideas of what and who black people are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com